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Nikox
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posted 04-14-10 04:46 PM EDT (US)         
Ok folks, ready to start a new mod.

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The name is "1939-1945 Second Great War" and of course it's focused on World War 2.

It will be playable as normal mod and in the CTW version.

The CTW version will be installed overwriting RON core files this to can play of Army of One's (Legend017) WW II CTW campaign mod and use of the editor to create scenarios for the mod.

Wadis10, Scorch6294, Army_of_One, Coldwar Warrior,the Great Valdemar, Edilberto, MrYaR and Smarty (Martin R.) are already part of the team.
Anybody wanna join the project is wellcome.

The idea is to use years instead of ages:
- 1939 (ancient age)
- 1940 (classical age)
- 1941 (Medieval Age)
- 1942 (Gunpowder Age)
- 1943 (Enlightenment Age)
- 1944 (Industrial Age)
- 1945 (Modern Age)
- 194? (Informatio Age - an ipotetical year with the developement of secret weapons and units what have never seen combat times as war ended earlier)

(Edited) Nations involved are:
- 1.Finland - (replacing Persians)
- 2.Netherlands & Dutch East Indies - (dutch)
- 3.India - (indians)
- 4.United States of America - (americans)
- 5.Bulgaria - (replacing Lakota)
- 6.Canada - (replacing Iroquois)
- 7.Poland - (replacing Mongols)
- 8.New Zealand - (replacing Koreans)
- 9.Imperial Japan - (japanese)
- 10.Republic of China - (chinese)
- 11.Soviet Union - (russians)
- 12.Nationalist Germany - (germans)
- 13.United Kingdom of Great Britain - (british)
- 14.France - (french)
- 15.Kingdom of Yugoslavia - (replacing Spanish)
- 16.Neutral Nations - (replacing Turks)
- 17.Egypt - (egyptians)
- 18.Regno d'Italia (tr: Kingdom of Italy) - (romans)
- 19.Norway or Scandinavia - (replacing Greece)
- 20.Hungary - (replacing Nubians)
- 21.South Africa - (replacing Bantu)
- 22.Romania - (replacing Inca)
- 23.Australia - (replacing Maya)
- 24.Brazil - (replacing Aztecs)

More edited:
- New Governments:

- 1.Finland - Despotism; Democracy;
- 2.Netherlands & Dutch East Indies - Republic; Monarchy;
- 3.India - Republic; Monarchy;
- 4.United States of America - Republic; Democracy; Capitalism.
- 5.Bulgaria - Despotism; Monarchy;
- 6.Canada - Republic; Democracy;
- 7.Poland - Republic; Democracy;
- 8.New Zealand - Republic; Democracy;
- 9.Imperial Japan - Despotism; Monarchy; Militarism.
- 10.Republic of China - Despotism; Democracy;
- 11.Soviet Union - Despotism; Monarchy; Militarism.
- 12.Nationalist Germany - Despotism; Monarchy; Militarism.
- 13.United Kingdom of Great Britain - Republic; Monarchy; Capitalism.
- 14.France - Republic; Democracy;
- 15.Kingdom of Yugoslavia - Republic; Monarchy;
- 16.Neutral Nations - Republic; Monarchy;
- 17.Egypt - Republic; Monarchy;
- 18.Regno d'Italia - Despotism; Monarchy; Militarism.
- 19.Scandinavia - Republic; Monarchy;
- 20.Hungary - Despotism; Monarchy;
- 21.South Africa - Republic; Monarchy;
- 22.Romania - Despotism; Monarchy;
- 23.Australia - Republic; Democracy;
- 24.Brazil - Republic; Democracy;


Research rules at the Library:
- except done for civic all other level research are limited by the age reached.
For example: you cannot research the military level "Nations-in-arms" before you reached the 1945 year.


More arguments to talk about:
- Buildings.
- Units involved.
- Researches names.
- Resources available.

You can download the last version of the mod at MODDB:





Waiting for your effort,
Nicola a.k.a Nikox

[This message has been edited by Nikox (edited 10-19-2016 @ 10:57 AM).]

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scorch6294
Member
posted 06-29-12 04:22 AM EDT (US)     426 / 472       
Hi I have the following model germanium (not all but most of the textures)
armored car
puma
SdKfz 231
antiaircraft
Flakpanzer I
sdkfz 104
Flakpanzer 38(t) Gepard
Flakvierling 38 auf Fgst Zgkw 8t SdKfz 7 1
Flakpanzer IV Kugelblitz
Flakpanzer IV Mobelwagen
Flakpanzer IV Ostwind
Flakpanzer IV Wirbelwind
Flakpanzer V Coelian
Flakpanzer e100
Flakpanzer maus
Rheintochter
artillery
Sig33 Bison
Sdkfz124 Wespe
Sdkfz138-1 Grille
Sdkfz165 Hummel
SdKfz166 Brummbar
Sdkfz181 Sturmtiger
geschützwagen panther
geschützwagen tiger
geschutzwagen e series
hunters
SdKfz101 Panzerjager I
Sdkfz131_Marder_II
Sdkfz132_Marder_II_Ausf_D
Sdkfz135_Marder_I
Sdkfz138_Marder_III_Ausf_H
Sdkfz138_Marder_III_Ausf_M
Sdkfz138-2_Hetzer
Sdkfz139_Marder_III
Sdkfz142_Sturmgeschutz_III
Sdkfz142-1_Sturmgeschutz_III_Ausf_F
Sdkfz142-1_Sturmgeschutz_III_Ausf_G
SdKfz142-1 StuG40 Ausf.G
Sdkfz162_Jagdpanzer IV_L-70
Sdkfz162_Jagdpanzer_IV
Sdkfz164_Nashorn
SdKfz173_Jagdpanther
Sdkfz184_Ferdenand
SdKfz186_Jagdtiger
light tanks
Panzer I
Panzer II
Panzer 35(t)
Panzer 38(t)
PzKpfw II Ausf.J
PzKpfw II Ausf.L Luchs
t-15
PzKpfw 38 na
medium tanks
PzKpfw III Ausf.f
PzKpfw III Ausf.j
PzKpfw III-IV
PzKpfw IV Ausf.F1
PzKpfw IV Ausf.G
t-25
PzKpfw V-IV
vk3002db
PzKpfw V Ausf.G Panther
e79
heavy tanks
Flamm panzer PzKpfw B2.f
PzKpfw VI Ausf.E tiger
PzKpfw VI Ausf.H tiger
PzKpfw VI Ausf.B Konigstiger
vk4502a
vk4502b
lowe
e100 Henschel
e100 krupp
e100 maus
PzKpfw VIII maus

list will be extended with new models

[This message has been edited by scorch6294 (edited 06-29-2012 @ 04:27 AM).]

Wadis10
Member
posted 07-08-12 06:26 PM EDT (US)     427 / 472       
Is it possible for you to upload these models somewhere?
valdemar
Member
posted 07-09-12 02:22 AM EDT (US)     428 / 472       
Ratte P-1000. Model from Alex, texture (Not Finished Yet) from me..

[This message has been edited by valdemar (edited 07-10-2012 @ 03:27 PM).]

Super7700
Member
posted 07-09-12 02:30 AM EDT (US)     429 / 472       
Awesome, I can't wait to see that in action! It's an absolute beast! Well done.

~ Creator of Kings and Conquerors, a total conversion mod for Rise of Nations: Thrones and Patriots ~
Nikox
Member
posted 07-09-12 06:08 PM EDT (US)     430 / 472       
Wow!!
This is really a GREAT job!!!
Congratulations to both Scorch & Valdemar
Baxxter89700
Member
posted 07-18-12 11:55 AM EDT (US)     431 / 472       
Good to see that work hard

And it's possible to have news maybe for the futur update ?
I have replay to this mods and i realy like the skin of the Panzer 4 Ausf f his very good i love play with him but not for the Ausf H version, is very ugly i prefer not update the tank.

I hope we can have for the next update many news skin and model that will be great. Thanks and good work

I have an idea, why not to use calibre of artillery and armor plating of armored to parametrize the power, the reach(impact) and the life.
Example:
-Tiger II Ausf. B:-original: standard(cannon) 88 mm, armor plating 180 mm
- games: attack 88, carried(worn) 88, life 180

-Panzer IV Ausf. H:-original: standard(cannon) 75 mm, Armor plating 80 mm
- Games: attack 75, Carried(Worn) 75, life 80

- T-34 / 85: - original: standard(cannon) 85 mm, Armor plating 75 mm
- Games: attack 85, Carried(Worn) 85, life 75

And as his(her,its) applied for all the units, the respect for the reality can be applied

[This message has been edited by Baxxter89700 (edited 07-26-2012 @ 01:53 PM).]

Nikox
Member
posted 10-06-12 01:11 AM EDT (US)     432 / 472       
In next release of the mod Missile Cruiser, Attack Submarine and Advanced Battleship are deleted due to a bug.
New units will be introduced, one is Naval Mine:




There will be also a bunch of new models coming from Civ 5 WWII Unit Packs by danrell, one is the PzKpfw IV ausf H:

[This message has been edited by Nikox (edited 10-06-2012 @ 01:50 AM).]

aegisacer
Member
posted 10-07-12 00:49 AM EDT (US)     433 / 472       
Would Ratte and Landkruzer be included in German's Secret Weapon Arsenal as well?
Also, are you gonna include the calliope for the allied?
The naval mine looks sick btw =D
Nikox
Member
posted 10-07-12 02:09 AM EDT (US)     434 / 472       
Hi aegisacer,
I'm keeping one free room for the Ratte, but till now I didn't find the way to animate the three turrets.
I'm thinking to include the Messerschmitt Me 262 "Schwalbe" and for the allied the T28/T95 GMC.

I'm sorry that the naval mine looks sick, maybe it's needing a little bit of "Maquillage" (read new skin)
Baxxter89700
Member
posted 10-22-12 07:20 AM EDT (US)     435 / 472       
Wow it's a really really great skin for the Panzer IV
Nikox
Member
posted 10-24-12 04:58 AM EDT (US)     436 / 472       
I'd keep the Bf 109 Emil as german Fighter-bomber or I'd replace it with the Bf 110 C ??
I cann't keep both, tell your opinion about it...

[This message has been edited by Nikox (edited 10-24-2012 @ 05:00 AM).]

Baxxter89700
Member
posted 10-27-12 07:35 AM EDT (US)     437 / 472       
The BF110 is really better !
Baxxter89700
Member
posted 11-28-12 02:18 PM EDT (US)     438 / 472       
What do you think of these models?
http://caponier.ru/media/2011/10/GZM.jpg
Wadis10
Member
posted 11-28-12 04:21 PM EDT (US)     439 / 472       
I'm returning from a long absence from modding RoN and now have a break for a few months.

I've never seen such high quality and numerous models, how can we obtain them?

I also applaude the progress on this and other mods, especially the working propellors and new aircraft models.
Nikox
Member
posted 11-29-12 03:30 AM EDT (US)     440 / 472       
Wow! Wadis is back!
I'm really happy to see my partner alive and kicking

I exported new models from Scorch6294 and the CIV5 Danrell's WW2 Units collection.
I'm missing models for the Japanese Type 92 or Model 92 Naval Armored Car, Panhard AMD 178, Marmon-Herrington Mk III or similar and Humber Mk IV or similar.
For Soviet Union I thought the armored car can be the BA-10 (of course I need the model for it) and we can have the BA-64 as it's upgrade, but then we’ll need a model as APC, an half-track or something like that.
Orientar suggested it can be the BTR-5K.

I'm trying to export naval models using RON animations, but I'm in deep waters stills..

I started a thread in Scenario Design about the 1939-1945 Second Great War mod script, but I had no reply till now (sigh!).

@Baxxter89700,
great models!! The models are from the GZM 7 mod for Blitzkrieg 1 by Nival. Before to download it (3,32 Gb + 6,94 Mb of patch),do you know if the models can be loaded by 3D Studio Max??

[This message has been edited by Nikox (edited 11-29-2012 @ 08:56 AM).]

Baxxter89700
Member
posted 12-23-12 07:52 AM EDT (US)     441 / 472       
Can we have some news?

Here you can see the armor that would have been produced by Germany from 1945/46. They are really beautiful and I hope you can arrive at the model :
http://www.adpublishing.de/html/panzer_prototypes.html
http://1erdb.actifforum.com/t531-les-projets-de-panzer-de-la-fin-du-conflit-paper-panzer

[This message has been edited by Baxxter89700 (edited 12-23-2012 @ 07:59 AM).]

VelvetClaw
Member
posted 12-23-12 07:16 PM EDT (US)     442 / 472       
@Nikox:
I'm trying to export naval models using RON animations, but I'm in deep waters still...
I can confirm that exporting is not a problem, it will be animating that will be problematic, because I suspect that naval units and cavalry units are somewhat "hard-coded" into the game. So far,

- custom texture unwrapping for cavalry have failed, the only way around this is to re-use the light cavalry skin.
- my ships are not functioning as I wanted either, with most animations not working - the only time when they do work, ironically, is when they sink.
- attempts to use bones for animation resulted in a rather.... interesting result.

It seems the only way for you then will be to replicate the skeleton of naval units by investigating the BH3 files' node and bone structures, but I can also confirm that using nodes for movement might not be a good solution. Fortunately for you however ships would not be a big problem given that you don't have a great deal of moving parts to work with - least of all for battleships. Simple craft like E-boats should pose no problems, your biggest foe however would be those which have movable turrets, especially if the number of movable turrets therein is greater than 2.

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Nikox
Member
posted 03-24-13 12:08 PM EDT (US)     443 / 472       
We have a new member in the WW2 Team: MrYaR

WELLCOME!!!
MrYaR
Member
posted 03-24-13 12:10 PM EDT (US)     444 / 472       
Greetings mates ! May the cups of cofee be with us !
Great things are on the way !
Army_Of_One1
Member
posted 06-24-13 05:18 AM EDT (US)     445 / 472       
Nikox, Nice see still working on your mod.. Good work! I haven't mod anything in few years... Been forever.. How everything going with mod?

Edited: Just noticed date..

[This message has been edited by Army_Of_One1 (edited 06-24-2013 @ 05:25 AM).]

Nikox
Member
posted 06-24-13 01:02 PM EDT (US)     446 / 472       
Hi Army of one!!
we're alive and kicking

Post Scriptum:
I answered to your PM on MODDB.
Ali199726
Member
posted 06-25-13 00:03 AM EDT (US)     447 / 472       
nice mod here guys
can i be of any help?
secondly can here be an mg42 or a heavy machine gun on truck back for ww2 mod in modern age? like a half track with a machine gun to kill troops
Nikox
Member
posted 06-25-13 09:20 AM EDT (US)     448 / 472       
Hi Ali199726,

of course any help is wellcome, write me an e-mail:

nicola.zannoni@libero.it


about the halftrack, there are 3 halftracks firing in the mod: the american M3, the german sdkfz 251 and the french kegresse (this last one is using the german model with a modified skin as till now we couldn't have a better model).

If you wanna work on a version of this mod playable with basic RON we have to think at what nations you wanna include (there are 6 more in TaP) and what units you wanna keep (there are 104 units more in TaP).
Ali199726
Member
posted 06-25-13 10:30 AM EDT (US)     449 / 472       
I mailed you Nikox and posted a mod as an example of skinning
i can skin only but bought a 3ds max and if anyone can teach me to use it i will be glad.
Ali1997
also i have a request that i need a c130 model and skin to use as strategic bomber maybe.
Nikox
Member
posted 06-25-13 04:36 PM EDT (US)     450 / 472       
Hi Ali,

you can find The Basics of Modeling and Texturing here:

http://ron.heavengames.com/library/articles/modelingtutorial/tutorial0.shtml

and more about the use of 3DMax with RON on youtube here:

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheFathership

of course there are more tutorial on the use of 3D Max on youtube, make a search with "3d studio max" or "3d modelling".

If you install the plugin to import .nif models you can look for civ4 models here:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=173

Then to phisique the models before to export them you'll find usefull these posts:

http://ron.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/forums/display.cgi?action=ct&f=10,6001,90,720

http://ron.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/forums/display.cgi?action=ct&f=10,6383,,10

[This message has been edited by Nikox (edited 06-25-2013 @ 04:48 PM).]

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