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posted 10-31-09 07:29 PM EDT (US)   


1. American prosperity is due to the fact that its troops could simultaneously work as farmers,woodcutters, miners, and merchants while fighting.

2. An airbase can fit 10 bombers, even though a bomber is the size of an airbase.

3. An army can be encircled inside enemy territory and still survive with a supply wagon. Armies were trained in the art of alchemy, and could convert the ground into food and ammunition.

4. Your artillery can continously fire at an enemy building for an hour and you will not lose any resources.

5. Once planes are built, they do not need oil to work. Each airplane's fuel tank contains an alchemist that converts air into oil.

6. Troops can make their own boats and cross oceans.

7. After the ancient age, all countries had a senate

8. The US army was led by a CEO during WWII

9. Fisherman can survive in the middle of the ocean

[This message has been edited by TheOneYakoo (edited 10-31-2009 @ 07:32 PM).]

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posted 10-31-09 10:29 PM EDT (US)     1 / 74  
Is this supposed to be a list of unrealistic parts of RoN?
posted 11-01-09 11:22 AM EDT (US)     2 / 74  
Yes, this thread is about all the unrealistic things in RoN

10. There were giant heaps of resources scattered around the globe. Being more scientifically advanced allowed you to duplicate this heaps. The Romans and Chinese were sucessful because they found most of the heaps.

11. Tanks can float in water. Each tank has a physic who can levitate the tank at will

12. Technology was developed thanks to the effect of scholars who sat on benches at universities and thought about things for the whole day.

13. The dutch government hired professional alchemists to duplicate their resources

14. Italians fought with legions during medieval times

15. The purpose of artificial intelligence is to allow computers to instantly train soldiers.
posted 11-01-09 12:46 PM EDT (US)     3 / 74  
I guess I'll add a few of my own to the list.

16. The Native American Nations as well as the Asian Nations fought with the phalanx during the Classical Era.

17. The Colosseum was constructed during Medieval Times.

18. All armies fought without supply lines until the Medieval Era.

19. There were massive libraries even as early as 4000 BCE.

20. Mining didn't begin until 650 BCE.

21. Luxuries, such as wine, were never traded between factions.

22. Professional Standing Armies came about before conscription.

23. Throughout history, Generals were trained separately from soldiers, never experience any combat.

24. The Lumber Mill came about at around 650 BCE.

25. Offshore Oil Platforms were built as early as 1900.

26. Throughout history, Siege and Artillery weapons were weak against infantry units.

27. The atomic bomb is a fictitious fallacy that never existed.

28. Mortars were an exclusive weapon only used by Andes Civilization.

29. The Horse Archer was a prevalent unit employed by all nations globally in the latter part of BCE.

30. Horse Back Riding wasn't discovered until 650 BCE.

31. Despotism and The Republic were the only two types of government in Ancient Times.

32. The Republic of Bantu was especially known for its air force, most notably its Hawk Fighter.
posted 11-01-09 05:47 PM EDT (US)     4 / 74  
1. The Greeks were able to construct libraries and universities with less timber, and they still functioned better, even though they were about to fall apart the entire time!

2. The Germans could build Smelters to purify iron before they even knew it existed.

3. The Egyptians were so far ahead, that they could build Super Collidors and were in Space while everyone else was busy fighting WWII.

4. The Aztecs had master firearms technology long before the Spanish had landed.

5. Tanks don't carry functional machine guns. The ones they do have are for aesthetic purposes only.

6. Citizens have infinite energy and never need to sleep or eat, even if they work at a mine or lumber camp 24/7.

7. Supercomputers were around in the Enlightenment Age.

8. The German Tiger I was a myth. The original Tiger was actually a Tiger II (King Tiger. The Tiger I was invented long after WWII.

9. German Volksgrenadiers are a crack fighting force, despite they fact they have nearly no training at all.

10. Submachineguns are more damaging and have a longer range than Rifles.
posted 12-20-09 02:17 AM EDT (US)     5 / 74  
If you drop a nuclear weapon it will have absolutely no effect on the environment, but if you drop 9 on the same plot of land it will automatically cause everything to turn gray and radiation will kill absolutely everything.
posted 12-20-09 02:28 PM EDT (US)     6 / 74  
44. Infantrymen can run three times faster than clubmen and and slingers despite carrying at least 50 pounds more of gear.

45. A general can conjure up half-visible decoys who disappear into nothingness when "killed."

46. A general can also make his standing army of 150 men turn invisible long enough to get to the enemy capital.

47. Forts and Towers fired with nobody in them, despite the fact that automated turrets hadn't been invented.

48. No matter how powerful your nation, you can only have eight cities with only 30 buildings each at a maximum, unless you steal more from other nations.

49. No matter how powerful your nation, your population can never be greater than 200, unless you domesticate peacocks or build a roman statue.

50. There are no natural disasters. Ever.

51. The only food available is wheat and pigs, although the symbol for food is an apple.

52. Even if your immortal citizens have been working at a lumber camp for the past 5000 years, no trees will ever be cut down.

53. Mountains contain unlimited metal, but nothing esle.

54. In the year 2015 (Late Info Age) nations are still using gold as a currency.

55. Male citizens went shirtless until guns were invented. Then they found themselves to be indecent and clothed themselves properly.

56. Even the largest universities contain but seven scholars.

57. Only 8 nations can coexist at a time. Anymore and the world starts to lag.

58. 8 nations have managed to build themselves up to extreme power with only what seems to be 5 square miles of land to share.

59. The only automobiles belong to caravans who trade between cities that are within walking distance to one another. These automobiles never run out of gas.

60. There is no such thing as fire, which was pretty darned essential to life on Earth.

61. There is no such thing as free will. All nations are controlled by an unexplainable outside force. This means that soldiers will continue to fight even if the numbers are 50 to 1.

62. Cruisers can destroy submerged submarines easily although they have no underwater guns and bullets are stopped by water.

63. Advantages in war are much like rock-paper-scissors.

64. Nations who have never seen eachother before make identical units who fight the same. You can only tell them apart by a color painted on them or clothing in a certain color, which nations adopt at the beginning of time and use until they die.

[This message has been edited by The0996395 (edited 12-20-2009 @ 03:00 PM).]

posted 12-20-09 06:00 PM EDT (US)     7 / 74  
Actually, the Colossus was Greek.

65. Trade and the minting of coins is utterly impossible unless a nation has at least two cities.
66. A magic, invisible force prevents a nation from constructing military buildings in another nation's territory.
67. There is no such thing as disease, but mankind still developed medicine so that they could take more "damage" when attacked.
68. Hunting never existed.

[This message has been edited by Random Username (edited 12-20-2009 @ 06:04 PM).]

posted 12-20-09 06:45 PM EDT (US)     8 / 74  
69. Fallen units turn from bodies to skeletons to dust in a matter of seconds.

70. Bombers carry unlimited bombs.

71. Damaged planes are repaired instantly upon landing in an airbase, free of charge.

72. A unit can heal his invisible wounds simply by standing inside a city, hiding in a tower, or hanging out in a fort. This also seems to resurrect fallen soldiers in a unit as long as one in that unit is alive. Probably some magic healers.

73. A spy can make a couple of motions and then everyone in a building will give her nation complete information about it. Forever.

74. If a nation's capital was captured for long enough, the nation would die despite having other functional cities.

75. There are no such things as concert halls, movie theaters, and bowling alleys.
posted 12-20-09 07:30 PM EDT (US)     9 / 74  
76. oil just sits on top of the land.
77. walls never existed, sorry china.
78. trenches never existed.
79. farms cannot exist outside of urban areas.
80. knowledge is a resource that you loose every time you buy a nuke.
81. troops upgrade instantly instead of training.
82. attrition is when the grass attacks you.
83. morale does not affect how troops fight.
84. all religion is is about collecting taxes and building temples to make more money.
85. normal citizens cannot learn anything just work for eternity.
posted 12-20-09 07:54 PM EDT (US)     10 / 74  
86. When a vehicle is destroyed, it burns, rusts, and vanishes in a matter of seconds.

87. The oceans are very deep, even at the shores.

88. The only known animals seen in the world are Buffalo, Bears, fish, whales, Horses, peacocks, sheep, pigs, chickens, birds, dogs, and oxes. Cows are mythical creatures rumored to be found in certain areas of the world.

89. There is no night.

90. A season can last for hundreds of thousands of years.

91. Boats are operated either by machines or wizards.

92. A fighter plane cant land on a carrier, the magical forces won't let it.

93. Spies can make vehicles turn into different vehicles and change people's races just by throwing coins at them.

94. A Godlike figure controls each nation, can kill its citizens, and make birds appear out of no where.

95. A black fog surrounds the world, and explorers can conjure up spells with there wands to ward them off

96. The world is surrounded by an impassible giant map thing

[This message has been edited by Coldwar Warrior (edited 12-29-2009 @ 02:53 PM).]

posted 12-21-09 03:28 PM EDT (US)     11 / 74  
97. All citizens walk at the same pace.

98. All tanks drive at the same speed.

99. All planes fly at the same speed.

100Egyptians have found out how to have 7 farms in heir cities instead of 5, despite not living near the actual Nile.
posted 12-22-09 12:01 PM EDT (US)     12 / 74  
101. Spies can bribe enemy soldiers to fight for them, without actually giving them anything.

102. Nebraskan15 said something about grass eating away at soldier's health because of "attrition". Russian grass is especially hungry.

103. Researching Global Prosperity allows you to make tougher airplanes. (what the heck?)

[This message has been edited by Random Username (edited 12-22-2009 @ 12:06 PM).]

posted 12-22-09 02:48 PM EDT (US)     13 / 74  
104. Building a colleseum (spelling?) makes atrition grass have extra bloodlust, and building the statue of liberty makes them think they are fighting for freedom.
posted 12-22-09 03:12 PM EDT (US)     14 / 74  

86-Donkeys carry houses on their backs, which are used to gather resources

87-Native Americans fought europeans with guns.

88-It was possible to attack airplanes with arrows.

89-It was necessary to pay money to declare war

90-Building a rocket on a launch pad gives you a view of the entire world

91-Ancient cultures were right when they claimed that the world was flat.
posted 12-22-09 03:40 PM EDT (US)     15 / 74  
105. 3 soldiers can easily kill an armored car

106. Even the earliest Anti Aircraft guns were made only to fire at aircraft.

107. Even if they've been sprinting for 25 miles, soldiers never get tired.

109. Since everyone is immortal, every soldier in the world smokes.

110. Towers can make grass hungrier.
posted 12-22-09 05:35 PM EDT (US)     16 / 74  
111. Some cultures have unique units that can't be copied by other cultures, ever. If they were copied, it would be cheating.

112. The Dutch are a very powerful and commercial nation with a giant army, just like the rest of the nations.

113. Once you build a building, it costs more to build a carbon copy of it, unless you're from India.

114. It is possible for your nation to be the most advanced ever and have 0 Knowledge.

115. Through persistence, 30 archers can destroy a tank with their arrows, and make it blow up somehow.

116. By bending the laws of physics, 5 battleships can garrison inside of a shipyard.

117. Only seven people per city get to be educated.

118. There are no such things as maces.

[This message has been edited by The0996395 (edited 12-22-2009 @ 05:36 PM).]

posted 12-23-09 01:08 AM EDT (US)     17 / 74  
#87: Native Americans did fight Europeans with gunpowder weaponry. Everybody except the Meso/Centro/Sudamericans.
posted 12-23-09 05:30 PM EDT (US)     18 / 74  
119. The Soviet Union was the only nation to create a nuclear subarine. This submarine was different from others in the fact that it was bigger and more powerful than regular submarines.

120. A merchant can do anything. He can collect furs of animals, pluck fruit from trees or just from the nearby wagon,collect tires, or mine and smelter coal, doing all of this from his small house.

121. The world is run by generals.

122. Whales are a great source of food.

123. Rivers are lifeless.

124. In the early 1900's the rocks around the world suddenly gushed out oil.

125. Every citizen can teleport resources from where ever they are to the town.

126. Before the 1900's only old people were allowed to learn.
posted 12-23-09 06:20 PM EDT (US)     19 / 74  
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posted 12-24-09 02:33 AM EDT (US)     20 / 74  
#119: It's strange that they gave the Soviets the nuclear sub; after all, America's submarines were superior. I once heard that "the Cold War was won underwater" (though also in space).
posted 12-29-09 00:03 AM EDT (US)     21 / 74  
127. Witchcraft is used to convert a small city to a large city, and a large city to a major city.

[This message has been edited by MadCat1968 (edited 12-29-2009 @ 00:05 AM).]

posted 12-31-09 11:30 AM EDT (US)     22 / 74  
128. Generals are trained in the art of magic. Otherwise, how can they turn guys invisible and poof decoy soldiers out of nowhere?

129. A soldier can get shot several times and still walk, run, and fight perfectly.

[This message has been edited by RTSDude999 (edited 12-31-2009 @ 11:36 AM).]

posted 01-22-10 08:49 PM EDT (US)     23 / 74  
130. The Aztecs are still alive, abd thriving in 2015, modern technology in the Enlightenment age had created clones of extict Nations.

131. There are both the Americans, and the Native Americans, each the same nation, even in the Information age! Because Indians existed in 2015.

132. 5 farms was the maximum amout of farms aloowed in each city, otherwise the Farms would run wild, and turn ferale from the Pesticides they had in the Ancient age. This causes them to be EXTRA bloodthristy, thus creating extra attrition. Which of cource is bad for the Nation the farms are in.

133, God abviously favours the Egyptians! They get extra farms!! Maybe the Egyptian farms are better behaved?
posted 01-24-10 10:42 AM EDT (US)     24 / 74  
134. The Lakota can gather food in the middle of the desert.

135. The Russians can lose WWII.

136. Archers can destroy buildings
posted 01-24-10 01:36 PM EDT (US)     25 / 74  
#136: Archers CAN. Flaming arrows. A more apt example would be pikemen, who can only stab at (and hope it weakens) the walls.
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